Post by Admin on Mar 24, 2018 20:20:29 GMT
Repeat discussion about Agen France:
There is some new information at hand about Agen France and things which might make it unusual. Reading Occult Paris, by Tobias Churton.
www.amazon.com/Occult-Paris-Magic-Belle-Époque-ebook/dp/B01CO33AOS/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1
The book comes to one Josephin Peledan, a rather notorious sort of the 1880's and 1890's who started a Rosicrucian Order in Paris. The question turns to what made him think he had the initiatory standing by which to do that?
Well he was affiliated with one Vicomte Louis Edouard de Lapasse ( 1792 - 1867 )
iniziazioneantica.altervista.org/1700-1800/lapasse/lapasse.htm
they show the same picture in the Churton book.
So this started with a lecture given by Yale's John Merriman, about France and the development of a middle-class, as evidenced by the low birth rate. And then how contraception was considered by the Catholic clergy as an unspeakable evil.
So Merriman talks specifically about Agen and how if you have a second child you can today expect to be receiving condolences cards. Never heard of such a place. Merriman talks about the place standing out on the 1791 Jurist Priest map, and then recently in how they voted for the socialist Mitterand.
So speculation was raised that these uncommon views which they have could come from that having been a Cathar place. There is in fact a cathar castle there. But most of these so called cathar castles are fake, built by the French Monarchy in order to keep the Cathars from coming back. Catharism is today something of a tourism industry.
Well, in Churton's book he talks about Peledan coming from 'old Catholic families" and Lapasse also coming from such, but in Agen.
They are actually talking about Templars, about there being some sort of Templar legacy there built into Agen, and also maybe into Toulouse.
So they talk about Templars, Troubodors, Cathars, and Rosicrucians, as all basically being the same, and operating, among other places, Agen.
And it has been discussed that Cathars would assemble and sit in a circle and slowly recite the Pater Noster over and over. But does this get people burned at the stake? No, it was because they had methods of contraception and abortion, and just because they were thinking about such things, instead of acting out of compulsion.
Remember, Cathars did not build their own churches, they would freely attend Catholic services. They just seemed to have understood it differently, been able to keep a certain critical distance. I have long called this, "Being in the Church but not of it".
So the Churton book is telling us that something like that still existed amongst these 'old Catholic families' in Agen in the 1800's. And so just by virtue of having grown up in that environment, Peledan and Lapasse were already initiated into some sort of Rosicrucian - Cathar - Troubodor - Templar thinking.
So after Merriman, this is the first written confirmation that someone finds something unusual about this Agen
Lot-et-Garonne
region
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot-et-Garonne
I mean none of this occult stuff would the Catholic clergy approve of, and much of it did have a buried sort of sexuality. But who cares what the Catholic clergy says or thinks.
You will find this in a Catholic country like France, where as in the US, Catholics are more like Protestants, seeing it as a belief and approval seeking system.
If someone grows up in a family which is 'in the Church but not of it', then they will assimilate that different way of thinking.
So again, first confirmation that there is something different about Agen, and indeed affirming that it does connect to these gnostic types of thinking.
Condolences cards upon having a second child? Only time I ever heard of people who might think like that would have to connect to gnositicsm. And one of the major occurrences of such was Catharism in the South of France. But they are actually now connecting all of it to the Knights Templar.
Lapasse was a doctor, and he lived by the Rosicrucian injunction from the Fama Fraternititus to treat the poor at no charge.
There is some new information at hand about Agen France and things which might make it unusual. Reading Occult Paris, by Tobias Churton.
www.amazon.com/Occult-Paris-Magic-Belle-Époque-ebook/dp/B01CO33AOS/ref=dp_kinw_strp_1
The book comes to one Josephin Peledan, a rather notorious sort of the 1880's and 1890's who started a Rosicrucian Order in Paris. The question turns to what made him think he had the initiatory standing by which to do that?
Well he was affiliated with one Vicomte Louis Edouard de Lapasse ( 1792 - 1867 )
iniziazioneantica.altervista.org/1700-1800/lapasse/lapasse.htm
they show the same picture in the Churton book.
So this started with a lecture given by Yale's John Merriman, about France and the development of a middle-class, as evidenced by the low birth rate. And then how contraception was considered by the Catholic clergy as an unspeakable evil.
So Merriman talks specifically about Agen and how if you have a second child you can today expect to be receiving condolences cards. Never heard of such a place. Merriman talks about the place standing out on the 1791 Jurist Priest map, and then recently in how they voted for the socialist Mitterand.
So speculation was raised that these uncommon views which they have could come from that having been a Cathar place. There is in fact a cathar castle there. But most of these so called cathar castles are fake, built by the French Monarchy in order to keep the Cathars from coming back. Catharism is today something of a tourism industry.
Well, in Churton's book he talks about Peledan coming from 'old Catholic families" and Lapasse also coming from such, but in Agen.
They are actually talking about Templars, about there being some sort of Templar legacy there built into Agen, and also maybe into Toulouse.
So they talk about Templars, Troubodors, Cathars, and Rosicrucians, as all basically being the same, and operating, among other places, Agen.
And it has been discussed that Cathars would assemble and sit in a circle and slowly recite the Pater Noster over and over. But does this get people burned at the stake? No, it was because they had methods of contraception and abortion, and just because they were thinking about such things, instead of acting out of compulsion.
Remember, Cathars did not build their own churches, they would freely attend Catholic services. They just seemed to have understood it differently, been able to keep a certain critical distance. I have long called this, "Being in the Church but not of it".
So the Churton book is telling us that something like that still existed amongst these 'old Catholic families' in Agen in the 1800's. And so just by virtue of having grown up in that environment, Peledan and Lapasse were already initiated into some sort of Rosicrucian - Cathar - Troubodor - Templar thinking.
So after Merriman, this is the first written confirmation that someone finds something unusual about this Agen
Lot-et-Garonne
region
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot-et-Garonne
I mean none of this occult stuff would the Catholic clergy approve of, and much of it did have a buried sort of sexuality. But who cares what the Catholic clergy says or thinks.
You will find this in a Catholic country like France, where as in the US, Catholics are more like Protestants, seeing it as a belief and approval seeking system.
If someone grows up in a family which is 'in the Church but not of it', then they will assimilate that different way of thinking.
So again, first confirmation that there is something different about Agen, and indeed affirming that it does connect to these gnostic types of thinking.
Condolences cards upon having a second child? Only time I ever heard of people who might think like that would have to connect to gnositicsm. And one of the major occurrences of such was Catharism in the South of France. But they are actually now connecting all of it to the Knights Templar.
Lapasse was a doctor, and he lived by the Rosicrucian injunction from the Fama Fraternititus to treat the poor at no charge.