Post by Admin on Dec 5, 2019 2:14:48 GMT
C*** wrote
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^I don't think feminism directly tells women to create confidence tests or shit-tests.
However, imagine this exact same scenario. But let's take us back to the 1950s. Let's say you are 21 years old, and she is 19. I don't know if that's how old you guys were but let's just go with it for now.
In the 1950s, the average woman married at the age of 20. A 19 year old girl would've known several friends who were married already. if a woman didn't marry by the time she was 25, she was considered a spinster.
Given the above factors, how do you think that might've changed this girl's behavior in the restaurant?
"
And then FunL***** wrote:
"Sorry DC, but nowadays you typically have to find a girl who actually likes you instead of just getting to have one simply by virtue of being male."
Mark this down, because I am in agreement with FunLoving, and I think CC99 has just got this entire matter completely wrong!
A****, Feminist leaders used to say, "You are one man away from destitution", encouraging women to feel free to pursue careers.
M***94, telling a woman to pursue a career, just for the money, is as dumb as telling a man to pursue a career just for the money. We cannot live like that, certainly not now, if we ever could.
C***, about the girl in the restaurant, women used to marry younger. But I do not want to return to that or ever try to push that on them.
I was very young and very inexperienced. I did not understand or have experience with coming on to a girl with the idea of hurrying her to the bedroom.
As far as the girl herself, she was a product of compromised feminism, reactionary feminism, the kind of ideas in Helen Gurly Brown's Cosmopolitan Magazine.
And this is a lesser version of the kind of feminism that has the additional money go into a higher mortgage payment. That is how the women are justifying themselves, the pricier house, "better neighborhood, better schools, for the kids."
www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Still/dp/0465097707/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=two+income+trap&qid=1575509534&sr=8-1
It is an example of how the middle-class lives, Bad Faith, not admitting that it creates its own values, and looking for things to hide behind.
It is not feminism, it is a shadow there of.
So the girl I was in the restaurant with was one who should have been either quickly fucked, or should have been long behind me. Probably both.
A better one would not have been a Business Major and would not have been talking about all the kinds of things this one talked about.
With a better girl there would have been some evidence of Bohemian Thinking in her life, and in the people she associated with. She would not have seen it as her role to judge men and separate us into the up and coming and the not so. She would not have been influenced by things like Cosmopolitan Magazine. She might have been influenced by the Feminist Alexandra Kolentai, or she might have been influenced by Simone de Beauvoir, or by a highly pro-sex feminist writer such as Catherine Texier. And she might have been a stripper, first found in high heels and makeup. But in those days I knew absolutely nothing about that.
www.amazon.com/s?k=catherin+texier&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
That girl was a conformist, a parent pleaser.
Like I said, most of the women who claim to be feminists don't even understand what the word means.
The reason I was with that one was just a testimony to my own social conservatism, and even, my own middle-class Bad Faith.
Women are not going to go back to domesticity, though I will admit here that it seems like some could be bribed into it. Domesticity is a trap. And we have had enough of the "mommy wars"
It was said that Bill Clinton was enjoying a Gender Gap, a big margin with women over his opponents.
But when it came to Al Gore, he was only enjoying a Marriage Gap. That is, single women went for him, whereas married women were going to George W. Bush. And then think about it, who listens to platitudes and posturing anyway, married women.
Feminism has left many promises unfulfilled, but that is because it has not gone any where's near far enough.
Other's have written that French women have better love lives, and that is because they just go with it.
Whereas in the US we have this huge self-improvement industry that writes to women and makes it all into shit. This is where the confidence and shit tests would be coming from. All completely reactionary.
Woman who was able to break with this, very interesting book, a most telling pivotal chapter, lives in San Francisco, graduated from SFSU. At the start, the women are so neurotic that they are making themselves miserable. But they finally do find the way out of their fly bottle. As I would say it, it just amounts to going for it, and it means men who would be considered unmarriageable due to age or lifestyle. In a sense, they opened up by becoming cougars. This completely changed them, long over due corrective.
www.amazon.com/MOSTLY-TRUE-CONFESSNS-Jean-Gonick/dp/0394551311/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jean+gonick&qid=1575510286&sr=8-1
Astute observers have pointed out that the Sexual Revolution did not start in the 60's, it started in the 1880's.
www.amazon.com/Century-Sex-Playboys-Revolution-1900-1999/dp/0802116523/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=playboy+century+of+sex&qid=1575511000&sr=8-4
Before there were only parlor courtships. So the rules of marriage eligibility were in full force. Access to unmarried women was tightly controlled.
Then in about the 1930's at some Midwestern colleges, the dating script began to be substituted. But it was always elitist.
And then in some social venues today you have the hook-up script. But none of these things are that egalitarian.
Some places today you have sex parties, like Swingers Clubs for single people. But usually you have to bring your own woman to get in.
www.clubkiss.us/sessions/new#focus
There was this woman who ran these "Cake Parties", London, NYC, San Francisco, like a single women's fantasy SEX ON SITE party. She also has written a book about this.
And then we also have more and better forms of P4P.
So things are improving, just slowly. Feminism has never been the problem, it remains part of the solution.
And of course my organization will be the Ultimate Remedy, converting your relationship with sex from a condition of scarcity to one of super abundance.
SJG
Frampton Midnight Special
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rFYbMhcG8
"
^I don't think feminism directly tells women to create confidence tests or shit-tests.
However, imagine this exact same scenario. But let's take us back to the 1950s. Let's say you are 21 years old, and she is 19. I don't know if that's how old you guys were but let's just go with it for now.
In the 1950s, the average woman married at the age of 20. A 19 year old girl would've known several friends who were married already. if a woman didn't marry by the time she was 25, she was considered a spinster.
Given the above factors, how do you think that might've changed this girl's behavior in the restaurant?
"
And then FunL***** wrote:
"Sorry DC, but nowadays you typically have to find a girl who actually likes you instead of just getting to have one simply by virtue of being male."
Mark this down, because I am in agreement with FunLoving, and I think CC99 has just got this entire matter completely wrong!
A****, Feminist leaders used to say, "You are one man away from destitution", encouraging women to feel free to pursue careers.
M***94, telling a woman to pursue a career, just for the money, is as dumb as telling a man to pursue a career just for the money. We cannot live like that, certainly not now, if we ever could.
C***, about the girl in the restaurant, women used to marry younger. But I do not want to return to that or ever try to push that on them.
I was very young and very inexperienced. I did not understand or have experience with coming on to a girl with the idea of hurrying her to the bedroom.
As far as the girl herself, she was a product of compromised feminism, reactionary feminism, the kind of ideas in Helen Gurly Brown's Cosmopolitan Magazine.
And this is a lesser version of the kind of feminism that has the additional money go into a higher mortgage payment. That is how the women are justifying themselves, the pricier house, "better neighborhood, better schools, for the kids."
www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Still/dp/0465097707/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=two+income+trap&qid=1575509534&sr=8-1
It is an example of how the middle-class lives, Bad Faith, not admitting that it creates its own values, and looking for things to hide behind.
It is not feminism, it is a shadow there of.
So the girl I was in the restaurant with was one who should have been either quickly fucked, or should have been long behind me. Probably both.
A better one would not have been a Business Major and would not have been talking about all the kinds of things this one talked about.
With a better girl there would have been some evidence of Bohemian Thinking in her life, and in the people she associated with. She would not have seen it as her role to judge men and separate us into the up and coming and the not so. She would not have been influenced by things like Cosmopolitan Magazine. She might have been influenced by the Feminist Alexandra Kolentai, or she might have been influenced by Simone de Beauvoir, or by a highly pro-sex feminist writer such as Catherine Texier. And she might have been a stripper, first found in high heels and makeup. But in those days I knew absolutely nothing about that.
www.amazon.com/s?k=catherin+texier&ref=nb_sb_noss_2
That girl was a conformist, a parent pleaser.
Like I said, most of the women who claim to be feminists don't even understand what the word means.
The reason I was with that one was just a testimony to my own social conservatism, and even, my own middle-class Bad Faith.
Women are not going to go back to domesticity, though I will admit here that it seems like some could be bribed into it. Domesticity is a trap. And we have had enough of the "mommy wars"
It was said that Bill Clinton was enjoying a Gender Gap, a big margin with women over his opponents.
But when it came to Al Gore, he was only enjoying a Marriage Gap. That is, single women went for him, whereas married women were going to George W. Bush. And then think about it, who listens to platitudes and posturing anyway, married women.
Feminism has left many promises unfulfilled, but that is because it has not gone any where's near far enough.
Other's have written that French women have better love lives, and that is because they just go with it.
Whereas in the US we have this huge self-improvement industry that writes to women and makes it all into shit. This is where the confidence and shit tests would be coming from. All completely reactionary.
Woman who was able to break with this, very interesting book, a most telling pivotal chapter, lives in San Francisco, graduated from SFSU. At the start, the women are so neurotic that they are making themselves miserable. But they finally do find the way out of their fly bottle. As I would say it, it just amounts to going for it, and it means men who would be considered unmarriageable due to age or lifestyle. In a sense, they opened up by becoming cougars. This completely changed them, long over due corrective.
www.amazon.com/MOSTLY-TRUE-CONFESSNS-Jean-Gonick/dp/0394551311/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=jean+gonick&qid=1575510286&sr=8-1
Astute observers have pointed out that the Sexual Revolution did not start in the 60's, it started in the 1880's.
www.amazon.com/Century-Sex-Playboys-Revolution-1900-1999/dp/0802116523/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=playboy+century+of+sex&qid=1575511000&sr=8-4
Before there were only parlor courtships. So the rules of marriage eligibility were in full force. Access to unmarried women was tightly controlled.
Then in about the 1930's at some Midwestern colleges, the dating script began to be substituted. But it was always elitist.
And then in some social venues today you have the hook-up script. But none of these things are that egalitarian.
Some places today you have sex parties, like Swingers Clubs for single people. But usually you have to bring your own woman to get in.
www.clubkiss.us/sessions/new#focus
There was this woman who ran these "Cake Parties", London, NYC, San Francisco, like a single women's fantasy SEX ON SITE party. She also has written a book about this.
And then we also have more and better forms of P4P.
So things are improving, just slowly. Feminism has never been the problem, it remains part of the solution.
And of course my organization will be the Ultimate Remedy, converting your relationship with sex from a condition of scarcity to one of super abundance.
SJG
Frampton Midnight Special
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rFYbMhcG8